How much should a plumbers call-out fee cost?

How much should a plumbers call-out fee cost?

What is a plumbers call-out fee?

A plumbers call-out fee is a set amount charged by a plumbing business to come to your home or business.

The call-out fee covers all of the costs incurred for the time it takes to arrive. The call-out fee covers employee costs, vehicle costs and business overhead costs.

Generally, for those businesses that charge call-out fees, the call-out fee only allows for arriving at your home or business. It does not allow for any investigation work of your plumbing problem.

What is a plumbing diagnostic evaluation fee?

Here at Whywait Plumbing, we do not charge a plumbers call-out fee to merely arrive at your home or business.

Since 1999 we have charged on every job we are called out to a diagnostic evaluation fee. This fee we require to be paid by credit card when you book your job in with us.

When you call us, we guarantee that we inform you of our initial upfront fault finding/investigation diagnostic evaluation fee and what that fee is.

Once you are happy to accept our diagnostic pricing, we’ll secure your booking by providing your credit card to cover the initial fault finding/investigation diagnostic evaluation fee.

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What is the difference between a call-out fee & a diagnostic evaluation fee?

Plumbing companies that charge a call-out fee use it to cover the cost for the journey for a plumber to arrive at your home or business.

Plumbing companies that charge a diagnostic evaluation fee cover the initial journey cost plus the cost to inspect your plumbing problems, diagnose the cause of the problem and provide fully costed solutions.

No call-out fee plumbers

Some plumbing companies heavily advertise that they have a no call-out fee. It may sound good for budget-minded potential customers but…..I guarantee you will end up paying the plumbers call-out fee anyway.

Remember if something is FREE, it has no value to the plumbing business offering it or to the customer receiving it. No call-0ut fee plumbing businesses simply transfer the costs of getting to the job in their other costs plus a margin so either way you pay.

The perception that advertising a no-call out fee creates is that you are getting something for free, as they will be cheaper. Perception is never reality as no business can work for free.

Think about it, would you go to work for free?

What you should ask about a plumbers call-out fee?

Always ask on the phone what is their call-out fee and what does it include. Many plumbing businesses not only have a call-out fee but an additional minimum charge for their time.

Clear communication is paramount to avoiding disputes. Be very clear in your own mind exactly what the plumber will charge you to arrive at your home or business and investigate what work is required.

Why do call-out fees vary so much?

Contrary to popular urban myths, there is no such thing as a set rate or recommended rate or the going rate for a plumbers call-out fee.

Every plumbing business is not the same. Every plumbing business has different employee costs, overhead costs and productivity levels that are required to set a call-out fee or diagnostic evaluation fee. 

It is illegal under the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 for business to collude in setting prices. The Act aims to give all businesses a fair and competitive operating environment. It covers anti-competitive conduct, price-fixing, unconscionable conduct and numerous other issues, such as advertising. The Act also sets out consumers’ rights and responsibilities.

It is also illegal under the Act for there to be any set or recommended rates by master plumbers associations.

Other factors that influence call-out fees are the type of service required and the time of day and which day. Major variances will occur if you require plumbing service at night, on weekends or on public holidays.

So how much should a plumbers call-out fee be?

Reality is asking how much should a plumbers call-out fee be is akin to asking how long a piece of string is.

Remember, there are no recommended call-out fee rates as every business has to determine what they charge.

As a rough guide in my experience, a basic plumbers call-out fee during normal weekday working hours will vary from $0 to $150 to simply arrive on the job. For an emergency plumbing call-out, the costs increase dramatically and you can expect to pay between $150 and $500.

I can only reiterate that you need to be very clear in your own mind exactly what the plumber will charge you to arrive at your home or business and investigate what work is required. 

Rights and responsibilities

Both the plumber and the customer have rights and responsibilities. Sadly there is a culture of mutual distrust between customers and plumbers with each being wary of being ripped off by the other.

Here at Whywait Plumbing, we aim to be always upfront with our pricing starting with our initial plumbers call-out fee or diagnostic fee. When we ask you to pay for that diagnostic fee upfront by credit card, we are both making a commitment from the beginning.

We guarantee and disclose our diagnostic fee up front and provide an upfront fixed price guarantee for all residential, domestic clients. There is no game playing, our clients are always informed of costs upfront, and there are never any hidden costs or nasty surprises.

Christmas Emergency Plumber Gold Coast

Christmas Emergency Plumber Gold Coast

Blocked drains or a blocked toilet are a Christmas nightmare

Christmas and New Year holiday emergency plumbing services on the Gold Coast have always been a priority service that Whywait Plumbing Services has guaranteed to provide 24/7.

We have our licensed plumbers ready to respond RIGHT NOW if you are experiencing any plumbing, drainage or gas emergency.

For the plumbers at Whywait Plumbing the traditional Christmas and New Year holiday period results in attending more blocked toilets, blocked kitchen sinks, blocked showers and blocked drains than any other time of the year. 

In many homes, the sewer drains have worked fine all year with only two people living in the house.  All over the Gold Coast families and friends descend on homes where the plumbing has worked fine all year, or so everyone thought. 

Many homes plumbing and sewer drains are stretched to breaking point with a sudden increase from two to twenty people plus descending on Christmas Day.

The result is overflowing sewage and no flushing toilet, which can be a real party stopper, especially in our summer’s heat.

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Warning signs of a potential blocked sewer at Christmas

As I repeatedly warn everyone, all too often, the warning signs of an impending blockage in your drains have been there for months.

The most common warning signs of a looming problem sewer drain or toilet are:

  • gurgling sounds coming from the toilet or bathroom floor waste or laundry tub

  • an overflowing drain gully outside the house

  • foul odours in the bathroom or toilet

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Do you have a Christmas plumbing emergency?

If you have your extended family and friends in your home and are experiencing any of the following, then you have an emergency.

  • No Water or a Burst Pipe if your household has no running water or has water flooding everywhere, this is an emergency;

  • Blocked Sewer Drains Bathroom, Kitchen, Laundry & Toilet blockages overflowing inside or outside your home is an emergency;

  • Blocked Toilets a blocked or overflowing toilet is an emergency;

  • Gas Leaks if you can smell gas call us immediately as this can mean there is a leak that’s potentially dangerous.

What will a Plumber cost over the Christmas & New Year Holidays?

After 44 years of providing emergency plumbing services we know near the top of the question list for every client is

“how much is this going to cost?”

Over Christmas and the 2021 new year holidays, we will provide service as usual.

When you call us, we will explain that we charge an initial upfront fault finding/investigation diagnostic evaluation fee and what that fee is as listed below.

Once you are happy to accept our diagnostic pricing, we’ll secure your booking by your providing your credit card to cover the initial fault finding and investigation diagnostic evaluation fee.

Christmas Day Diagnostic Service Fee: Allows for attending to the job site, diagnosing of work required and presenting costed requirements to you – $550.00 or Service Partner $59.40 inclusive of GST

Christmas Eve, Boxing Day & New Years Day Diagnostic Service Fee: Allows for attending to job site, diagnosing of work required and presenting costed requirements to the client –$330.00 or Service Partner $59.40 inclusive of GST

Our on call Christmas emergency plumber Gold Coast employees

Gary Mays

Gary Mays

Licensed Plumber & Drainer

Gary will be answering the phones over the Christmas period. Gary began the business in 1976 with Whywait Plumbing celebrating 44 years of continuous service on 11 November 2020.

David James

David James

Licensed Plumber, Drainer & Gasfitter

David has worked for us since 2019 and is our emergency plumber on call on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

Nathan Parrish

Nathan Parrish

Licensed Plumber & Drainer

Nathan has worked for us since 2015 and is our emergency plumber on call on the Boxing Day public holiday, New Years Eve and New Years Day.

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Urinal Odours

Urinal Odours

Urinal odours are not acceptable

Urinal odours are too often just accepted by commercial building managers. The reality is urinal odours should not be accepted as they are usually easy to rectify.

Solving urinal odours can be time-consuming if you don’t employ an experienced plumbing company to investigate the cause of the odours. Seldom are the odours a urinal issue.

The first steps in solving that infamous male public bathroom are to pinpoint the source of the odour.

Once the source is located, then the best method for eliminating the source of the odour can be undertaken,

Your male bathroom facility should be odour free

Male public bathrooms that have the distinctive urine odour generally only have that “lovely” odour for four main reasons:

  • substandard air extraction and ventilation

  • substandard cleaning procedures

  • floor waste traps that are poorly maintained

  • urinals that are not regularly serviced and maintained

Substandard air extraction and ventilation

It is common practice for a public bathroom to have mechanical ventilation. Poorly performing ventilation systems that remove little air create hot and humid bathrooms.

A simple trick to check the extraction fans are working is to place a piece of toilet paper over the grate. If the paper is not sucked up into the grate and falls to the floor, you have a problem.

If you believe you have poor air ventilation, you need to have it checked over by your air conditioning service company.

Substandard cleaning procedures

Short cut cleaning procedures are the most common cause of urinal odours.

Frequently this is a result of poor cleaning and using cheap chemical cleaning products such as bleach.

Poor cleaning procedures are easy to detect with brown stains in and around the urinal. Usually, there will be urine stains on the floor as well because many males are bad shots.

Ensuring your cleaners receive training on cleaning urinals correctly will solve multiple odours and presentation issues in a public bathroom. Trained cleaner combined with using good quality urinal cleaning products such as Aquatemp Spray & Go Urinal Cleaner & Deodoriser will make a monumental change in eliminating urinal odours.

Odours emitting from the floors around urinals is common, especially with water flushing urinals. This is created by water mist combining with urine to settle on the floor in the tile grout. If the floors are not cleaned correctly, this bacteria will multiply continuously and rapidly. Cleaning the floors with specialist bathroom cleaning products such as Aquatemp No-Rinse Floor Cleaner, Sanitiser & Disinfectant will eliminate urinal odours in the floor tiles.

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Floor waste traps that are poorly maintained

Floor wastes in a male public bathroom should only be connected to the basins. Disappointingly this is not always the case, especially in older buildings.

One of the first things to check when locating the source of urinal odours is to check that the urinals are not connected to a floor waste. If the urinals are connected to a floor waste, then you need to install a one-way valve into the floor waste to stop odour emissions.

Another common odour issue with floor waste drains is that the grates and pipe are never cleaned which allows bacteria buildup. Frequently this will be accompanied by poor ventilation which allows the odour causing bacteria to multiply and thrive.

Once again, this links back to correct cleaning procedures when cleaning the floors. That is why we recommend cleaning the floors with Aquatemp No-Rinse Floor Cleaner, Sanitiser & Disinfectant which will eliminate urinal odours in the floor tiles and floor waste grates.

Urinals that are not regularly serviced & maintained

Far too many building managers either fail to maintain their urinals or outsource their urinal servicing to cleaning and hygiene companies to reduce costs.

Not maintaining urinals only ensures you will create bigger problems at a later date.

Outsourcing urinal servicing to cleaning and hygiene companies is illegal as they cannot undertake any servicing work on urinals apart from cleaning them.

All urinals are required to be serviced and maintained correctly and legally compliantly as per the WaterMark certification for the urinals in accordance with the manufactures instructions.

Only plumbers are licensed to undertake urinal servicing by the Queensland Government plumbing regulator, the QBCC. The QBCC are legally required to protect public health and safety under Queensland’s plumbing and drainage licensing system.

Once again far too many building managers will outsource urinal servicing to companies such as Desert Eco Solutions. Desert use cheap, inferior substitute parts which guarantee you will experience urinal odours.

Under Queensland law and the WaterMark approval system on all urinals, it is illegal to use substitute parts. These means any parts that are not the genuine WaterMark tested and approved components for each urinal model under their WaterMark approval.

How to prevent urinal odours

At Whywait Plumbing, we are specialists in ensuring your bathroom facilities and urinals are a healthy environment.

Our product range and specialised services ensure your urinals are compliantly maintained, hygienic, and an odour free experience for your employees and clients alike.

We guarantee that urinal odours can be eliminated by following simple cleaning and maintenance procedures.

Specialist urinal cleaning products

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Should I be worried about hearing a gurgling sound in my wall?

Should I be worried about hearing a gurgling sound in my wall?

Noise from your bathroom pipes is not unusual

Squealing, shrieking, trickling, gurgling, splashing and banging noises are all sounds you’re most likely to hear every day. Unless you go to exotic, interesting parties, these are sounds you hear in your bathroom every day. 

Considering 90% of your plumbing infrastructure is concealed in your walls or floors or ceilings or underground, it is frequently a struggle to pinpoint where the sounds originate.

In older homes and buildings, there is no sound insulation on pipes. The older the home, the greater the likelihood to hear all sorts of sounds emitted from your wall or ceiling. 

Splashing is the easy one to solve as that usually is the sound of children in a bath, making a mess of water all over the floor and walls. But that’s easy to clean up and unless you slip it’s not dangerous.

Below we will explore what phenomenon is occurring when those weird and bizarre noises occur when you’re not in the bathroom?

Gurgling Sound

1 : Problem :

A gurgling sound is usually an intermittent sound originating from your drains.

A while ago a client told me that their gurgling toilet was laughing at her in a mocking manner when she called me. This is a perfect description of a gurgling sound from sewer drains.

It is common for most gurgling sounds to originate from the toilet pan or the bathroom floor waste overflow. Less common is your overflow relief gully outside.

2 : Risk of damage :

If you continually hear a gurgling sound, then the risk of damage is high.

If your toilet is slow to drain as in the photo below, followed by a series of gurgling sounds, then your risk level increases.

A slow draining gurgling toilet is either a partially blocked toilet or a blocked sewer drain.

If you continually hear a gurgling sound after the toilet is flushed or after a shower or when using your washing machine, the likelihood of having an overflow of sewerage outside in much greater. Even worse is the possibility of a sewerage overflow inside your house, usually out of the bathroom floor waste overflow.

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3 : Diagnosing a gurgling sound :

A gurgling sound is basically your sewer drains having an asthma attack as they are blocked and struggling to breathe.

The gurgling is a cry for help. If you hear it once or twice then it goes away then you probably have little risk.

But if you hear a continual gurgling sound I recommend you call us before you have a disaster. Blocked sewer drains do make a mess and are not for the faint-hearted.

4 : Gurgling sound solutions :

Overflowing sewerage on your property or in your home or business is no joking matter that can be put off until tomorrow.

I categorically guarantee that Googling DIY remedies to unblock a drain only delays the inevitable as they rarely solve anything.

Blocked drains will never go away. To solve any blocked drain problem, you’ll need our services to ensure the blockage is taken care of, both quickly and effectively.

Overflowing sewerage is both a health and a safety hazard to your family, employees, work colleagues and neighbours.

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Squealing Noises

1 : Problem :

As a rule, high pitched squeals or shrieks originate from your taps but they can also be transmitted through your pipes from valves at your hot water services.

They almost always occur when you are using a tap or the toilet cistern is refilling after having been flushed.

Squealing noises always sound much worse at night and frequently occur when a family member flush a toilet.

2 : Risk of damage :

 Most of the time there is minimal risk of damage.

For the most part, the squeals and shrieks are an irritant. As with most plumbing issues, they will not go away.

Reality is that they will increase in intensity the longer the problem remains unresolved.

3 : Diagnosing squealing sounds :

Squealing taps usually require tap maintenance as it will be worn washers or O rings plus lack of lubricant in the spindle.

If you have mixer taps then there is likely a problem with the mixing cartridge.

If it originates from your toilet cistern the problem will be either the cistern tap or water inlet valve.

Transmitted noise from hot water valves can be the most frustrating to locate and repair as you will have at least five valves that can be squealing. 

4 : Squealing sound solutions :

 If you taps are the source then you can try replacing the tap washer yourself. If that doesn’t solve the problem then call us in to investigate the origins of the sounds as the tap will require comprehensive tap maintenance.

Stripping and replacing mixer cartridges is not for beginners and is not a recommended DIY task.

If you have squealing hot water valves then definitely call us because I guarantee the problem will only get worse and potentially damage other valves. 

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Banging Noises

1 : Problem :

Annoying is the best description of banging pipes or what we refer to technically as water hammer.

Unfortunately moving water in copper pipes always has the potential to create sound.

The most common loud bang will come from a tap being turned on or off although they can diminish after the tap is turned off. If you hear sharp banging or hammering then in all likelihood that is your copper water reticulation pipes.

2 : Risk of damage :

 Ignoring banging sounds is definitely a risk.

Water hammer has the potential to flood your home as it can potentially break pipes or damage flexihoses, fitting, taps and appliances.

3 : Diagnosing banging sounds :

Sharp banging or hammering is normally a result of faulty taps or broken tap washers or poor clipping of pipes.

All of these causes can be accentuated by excessive water pressure.

If you hear a ticking sound that increases in intensity, then diminishes that is the sounds generated by pipe thermal expansion and is often heard throughout the house.

This is caused by the pipe heating up when the hot tap is turned on as the hot water replaces the cold water and then cools down.

Water hammer tends to be highlighted in copper water pipes but still exists in plastic piping systems, but frequently it is diminished greatly as the plastic pipe absorbs the sounds.

4 : Banging sound solutions :

The banging from water hammer creates a shock-wave which creates enormous pressure moving at 1280 meters per second inside your pipes.

Your plumbing reticulation pipes, taps, valves and appliances are all susceptible to damage created by the impact of shock waves even if you hear no noise.

The noise is essentially an early warning system telling you to rectify the problem before damage occurs.

Water hammer is avoidable and can be rectified regardless of whether you have copper or plastic water reticulation piping. It is worth scheduling a call by us and getting your system checked to prevent damage occurring.

Overview of sounds from your pipes

The above descriptions is only an overview of sounds you will hear from your plumbing infrastructure.

In reality, there are also plenty of symptoms of plumbing issues that don’t require funny or strange noises to originate from your bathroom but are quite obviously a problem.

Look for leakages and drips from taps and pipes.

Take note if the water isn’t draining properly down the sink, the bath, the shower and especially down the toilet.

Look and listen always and if in doubt call us.

Water hammer or banging pipes aren’t just annoying they’re a warning of bigger problems

Water hammer or banging pipes aren’t just annoying they’re a warning of bigger problems

What is water hammer?

Water hammer or banging pipes are differing faults with your water reticulation system.

In theory, you should never hear the sound of water moving through your hot or cold water pipes. All you should ever hear is the water flow from the tap or fixture in the room it’s installed in.

Essentially water hammer is a shock wave created inside your piping.

What causes water hammer?

Plumbing is essentially the movement of water through pipes. It, therefore, has the potential to be noise creating and create what is referred to as water hammer. 

Water hammer that is noticeable occurs with copper water pipes. But plastic water pipes also suffer from water hammer, and it’s just harder to hear it.

Water hammer audible noise in copper pipes is generated primarily by:

  • High water pressure

  • Quick closing mixer taps

  • Quick closing solenoid valves

  • Faulty or worn brass seats in taps

  • Broken tap washers

  • Airlocks in pipes

  • Shock waves in pipes

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Common noise complaints

There are four very common noise complaints with water pipe reticulation systems being:

  • Sharp banging or hammering sounds coming from pipes

  • A series of loud bangs when the washing machine or dishwasher is in operation

  • A loud bang from a valve or tap

  • Audible ticking sounds that diminish after the tap is turned on

An intense banging or hammering is a result of faulty valves, defective mixer taps, defective solenoid valves, broken taps or broken tap washers or poor clipping of pipes.

A series of loud bangs while you are using the washing machine or dishwasher is caused by the instantaneous opening and closing of the solenoid valves in the machine as it traverses through its cycle.

Excessive water pressure can accentuate all of these causes as water pressure legally cannot exceed 500kPa inside the building.

The ticking sound can build up then diminish and are in fact the sounds generated by pipe expansion. This is caused by the pipe heating up when the hot tap is turned on as the hot water replaces the cold water and then cools down.

Water hammer is a shock wave

Water hammer will occur much more if your pressure is excessive. The common causes of water hammer are quick closing mixer taps or solenoid valves on washing machines and dishwashers.

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In the picture above the shock wave is generated at the face of a quick closing mixer tap because the flow of water moving under pressure is stopped suddenly by the instant turning off of the mixer tap. The shock wave then ricochets back from the face of the mixer tap cartridge, through the stationary water in the pipe.  The shock-wave creates enormous pressure moving at 1280 meters per second through the pipe.

This same effect is replicated more intensely by the solenoid valves in your washing machine and dishwasher as unlike mixer taps they instantly open and shut as you machine moves through cycles.

Water hammer is an early warning alert

All of the sounds or the audible noise commonly referred to as water hammer tend to be highlighted in copper water pipes. Water hammer still exists in plastic piping systems, but it is diminished significantly as the plastic pipe absorbs the sounds.

Your plumbing reticulation pipes, taps, valves and appliances are all susceptible to damage caused by the impact of shock waves even if you hear no noise.

The noise is essentially an early warning system telling you to rectify the problem before damage occurs.

Water hammer is avoidable

Water hammer is avoidable and can be rectified regardless of whether you have copper or plastic water reticulation piping.

Banging or noisy pipes usually occur when the water reticulation pipes have not been clipped correctly as per AS/NZS 3500.1 : 2018 when the house was originally constructed. This can be much more challenging to rectify compared to water hammer.

To prevent damage to plumbing pipes, taps, fixtures, hot water valves and appliances both the noise element and shock wave element of water hammer need to be eliminated.

The noise element is auditory. The loud bang of water hammer when you turn off a tap or your washing machine is running alerts you to water hammer problems. Without the noise, there will be no indication of a problem until the damage is caused or your home is flooded by a burst flexihose or appliance hose.

The elimination of the water hammer eliminates the shock waves which impose undesirable stresses on reticulation pipes, flexihoses and appliances.

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